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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:05 pm

[quote="trmnatr"]What about a coil bind of 1.1", an installed height of 2.3" and a 1" lift cam. That will mean open is 1.3" so you have .200" clearance

Now what happens when the center coils start dancing????[/quote]

there,s springs made right now to fit that need and willnot dance or slinky
You cannot take a spring and just make it taller to your liking YOUR CORRECT IN THINKING that a spring will bounce around when not installed within manufactures guide lines. The problem is thinking ahead before buying valves and planning this stage most people dont want to pay the exspence up front but they will later big time when them Hypertec pistons go boom when the valve hits it. The springs prices go up in $$ but pay first not later. They make springs that install at 2.300 and better almost 400 seat 1300 open . And most springs that big have a coil bind figure around 1.150 and more not 1.100 that would be a med spring not suitible
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Post by Warp Speed » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:08 pm

star393 wrote:
there,s springs made right now to fit that need and willnot dance or slinky
You cannot take a spring and just make it taller to your liking YOUR CORRECT IN THINKING that a spring will bounce around when not installed within manufactures guide lines. The problem is thinking ahead before buying valves and planning this stage most people dont want to pay the exspence up front but they will later big time when them Hypertec pistons go boom when the valve hits it. The springs prices go up in $$ but pay first not later. They make springs that install at 2.300 and better almost 400 seat 1300 open .
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Post by af2 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:47 pm

Warp Speed wrote:
star393 wrote:
there,s springs made right now to fit that need and willnot dance or slinky
You cannot take a spring and just make it taller to your liking YOUR CORRECT IN THINKING that a spring will bounce around when not installed within manufactures guide lines. The problem is thinking ahead before buying valves and planning this stage most people dont want to pay the exspence up front but they will later big time when them Hypertec pistons go boom when the valve hits it. The springs prices go up in $$ but pay first not later. They make springs that install at 2.300 and better almost 400 seat 1300 open .
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by new engine builder » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:56 pm

star393 wrote:
trmnatr wrote:What about a coil bind of 1.1", an installed height of 2.3" and a 1" lift cam. That will mean open is 1.3" so you have .200" clearance

Now what happens when the center coils start dancing????
there,s springs made right now to fit that need and willnot dance or slinky
You cannot take a spring and just make it taller to your liking YOUR CORRECT IN THINKING that a spring will bounce around when not installed within manufactures guide lines. The problem is thinking ahead before buying valves and planning this stage most people dont want to pay the exspence up front but they will later big time when them Hypertec pistons go boom when the valve hits it. The springs prices go up in $$ but pay first not later. They make springs that install at 2.300 and better almost 400 seat 1300 open . And most springs that big have a coil bind figure around 1.150 and more not 1.100 that would be a med spring not suitible
Are you on some kind of medication??
If not then maybe you should start.
I still have no idea what you are talking about.
PLEASE KIDS DON'T DO DRUGS!!!
YOU CAN SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS JOKER!!!! :lol:

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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:17 pm

Well there you have it folks straight from Mo Larry and Curly the three stooges in person hip hip can you guys please sign my book my grandFather told me about you guys your great.

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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:24 pm

and here we have it af2 traveling at warpspeed trying to become a new engine builder just amazing folks how these clowns operate .

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Post by af2 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:29 pm

star393 wrote:and here we have it af2 traveling at warpspeed trying to become a new engine builder just amazing folks how these clowns operate .

Lets get back to what is true! :shock:

I am getting beat by spam bots!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF is that??????? :roll:
I will lay down and hopefully it is over when I wake up! :lol:
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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:29 pm

Drag Springs

1000 Series
Part Number Description O.D. I.D. Outer I.D. Middle I.D. Inner Seat Pressure Open Pressure Rate Lb./In. Retainer Step Max Lift Coil Blind
DR1047XL Triple 1.660" 1.195" .870" .630" 300lbs@2.070This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 900lbs@1.270This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 750 .100" .800" 1.130"
DR1048XL Triple 1.660" 1.195" .870" .630" 338lbs@2.100This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1002lbs@1.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 738 .100" .900" 1.130"

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1200 Series
Part Number Description O.D. I.D. Outer I.D. Middle I.D. Inner Seat Pressure Open Pressure Rate Lb./In. Retainer Step Max Lift Coil Blind
DR1202D Single w/Damper 1.220" .820" N/A N/A 190lbs@1.865This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 418lbs@1.380This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 470 .000" .485" 1.300"
DR1224 Dual 1.625" 1.175" N/A .855" 275lbs@2.000This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 750lbs@1.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 594 .100" .800" 1.130"
DR1246 Triple 1.645" 1.195" .870" .630" 300lbs@2.000This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 890lbs@1.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 738 .100" .800" 1.110"
DR1247 Triple 1.660" 1.195" .870" .630" 340lbs@2.070This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 940lbs@1.270This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 750 .100" .800" 1.130"
DR1248 Triple 1.660" 1.195" .870" .630" 375lbs@2.100This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1045lbs@1.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 744 .100" .900" 1.130"
DR1249 Triple 1.660" 1.195" .870" .630" 385lbs@2.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1110lbs@1.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 725 .100" 1.000" 1.130"
DR1250 Triple 1.660" 1.195" .870" .630" 395lbs@2.250This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1178lbs@1.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 746 .100" 1.050" 1.130"
DR1251 Triple 1.660" 1.195" .870" .630" 395lbs@2.300This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1176lbs@1.250This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 744 .100" 1.050" 1.130"
DR1252ML Triple 1.660" 1.195" .870" .630" 375lbs@2.250This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1230lbs@1.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 814 .100" 1.050" 1.080"
DR1253ML Triple 1.630" 1.180" .870" .630" 400lbs@2.200This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1160lbs@1.150This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 724 .100" 1.050" 1.080"
DR1260ML Triple 1.675" 1.195" .870" .630" 425lbs@2.300This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1255lbs@1.250This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 790 .100" 1.050" 1.140"
DR1261ML Triple 1.675" 1.195" .870" .630" 470lbs@2.300This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1275lbs@1.250This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 767 .100" 1.050" 1.140"
DR1262ML Triple 1.710" 1.210" .870" .630" 455lbs@2.300This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1400lbs@1.250This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 900 .100" 1.050" 1.140"

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Titanium Drag Springs
Part Number Description O.D. I.D. Outer I.D. Middle I.D. Inner Seat Pressure Open Pressure Rate Lb./In. Retainer Step Max Lift Coil Blind
DR1655 Dual 1.750" 1.186" N/A .686" 345lbs@2.250This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 1100lbs@1.300This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it " 795 .100" .950" 1.180"

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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:52 pm

PAC 1324 1.625 1.175 N/A 0.851 275 @ 2.000 810 @ 1.150 629 1.100 0.850 Dual Drag Race Spring - Bracket / high lift applications
PAC 1325 1.550 1.100 N/A 0.788 250 @ 2.000 765 @ 1.200 644 1.150 0.800 Smaller Diameter Dual Drag Race Spring
PAC 1326 1.550 1.100 N/A 0.706 275 @ 2.000 805 @ 1.200 663 1.150 0.800 Smaller Diameter Dual Drag Race Spring with a Damper
PAC 1346 1.645 1.195 0.871 0.635 250 @ 2.050 801 @ 1.250 689 1.130 0.800 Triple Drag Race Spring - Bracket Race Applications
PAC 1347 1.645 1.195 0.871 0.635 290 @ 2.070 835 @ 1.270 682 1.130 0.800 Triple Drag Race Spring - Bracket Race Applications
PAC 1348 1.645 1.195 0.871 0.635 332 @ 2.100 950 @ 1.200 687 1.130 0.900 Triple Drag Race Spring - Bracket Race Applications
PAC 1358 1.645 1.195 0.871 0.635 350 @ 2.150 1004 @ 1.200 688 1.130 0.950 Triple Drag Race Spring - Bracket Race Applications
PAC 1349 1.645 1.195 0.871 0.635 375 @ 2.200 1064 @ 1.200 689 1.130 1.000 Triple Drag Race Spring - High Lift
PAC 1350 1.645 1.195 0.871 0.635 440 @ 2.200 1129 @ 1.200 689 1.130 1.000 Triple Drag Race Spring - Pro Stock / Top Fuel applications
PAC 1351 1.667 1.195 0.871 0.635 450 @ 2.300 1240 @ 1.250 752 1.160 1.050 Triple Drag Race Spring - Pro Stock / Top Fuel applications
PAC 1352 1.681 1.195 0.871 0.635 480 @ 2.300 1315 @ 1.250 795 1.190 1.050 Triple Drag Race Spring - Pro Stock / Top Fuel applications
PAC 1353 1.695 1.195 0.871 0.635 500 @ 2.300 1445 @ 1.250 900 1.140 1.100 Triple Drag Race Spring - Pro Stock / Top Fuel applications
Next generation springs feature all of the material and processing features of the 1300 series with
smaller diameters for minimal weight for increased valvetrain stability and high RPM's
PAC 1354 1.550 1.050 N/A 0.726 425 @ 2.300 1440 @ 1.300 1015 1.230 1.000 Dual Pro Stock Spring
PAC 1355 1.500 1.050 N/A 0.726 420 @ 2.175 1200 @ 1.175 780 1.130 1.000 Dual High lift
PAC 1356 1.500 1.050 N/A 0.726 300 @ 2.100 1002 @ 1.200 780 1.130 0.900 Dual Drag Spring
PAC 1357 1.550 1.050 N/A 0.726 357 @ 2.300 1407 @ 1.300 1050 1.230 1.000 Dual High lift

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Post by af2 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:53 pm

star393 wrote:go pull on some 3 /0 and have a nice day yourself to and feel better
Did you just make 3/0 or where you talking 2/0!??
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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:58 pm

you see when your done building your weed wackers and Jr. dragsters i can see why you haven never seen real springs like the real men use thats ok dont faint have a seat in the easy chair and finish watching Bozo
its cambells soup time easy now .

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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:02 pm

af2 wrote:
star393 wrote:go pull on some 3 /0 and have a nice day yourself to and feel better
Did you just make 3/0 or where you talking 2/0!??
Distance - Feet
10 15 20 25 30 40 50
Amps Wire Gauge
5 18 16 14 12 12 10 10
10 14 12 10 10 10 8 6
15 12 10 10 8 8 6 6
20 10 10 8 6 6 6 4
25 10 8 6 6 6 4 4
30 10 8 6 6 4 4 2
40 8 6 6 4 4 2 2
50 6 6 4 4 2 2 1
60 6 4 4 2 2 1 0
70 6 4 2 2 1 0 2/0
80 6 4 2 2 1 0 3/0
90 4 2 2 1 0 2/0 3/0
100 4 2 2 1 0 2/0 3/0
120 4 2 1 0 2/0 3/0 4/0
140 2 2 0 2/0 2/0 4/0 4/0
160 2 1 0 2/0 3/0 4/0 4/0+4
180 2 1 2/0 3/0 3/0 4/0+10 4/0+2
200 2 0 2/0 3/0 4/0 4/0+4 4/0+0


What you have no UGLY book ???????????????????? :idea: :idea: :lol: :lol:

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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:06 pm

Hey Guys Have a great Happy ThanksGiving Day and Holiday

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Post by af2 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:10 pm

star393 wrote:Hey Guys Have a great Happy ThanksGiving Day and Holiday
You to!!!

I was trying to be nice! OH well I give trying to help the helpless!!!
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Post by star393 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:10 pm

AF2 if you can hear a Banjo are they playing Oh Susana man i like that one can you hear a Harmonica too i can play can you?? making music and having afew beers how thats happy time too.

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