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Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:48 pm
by MikeD
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:57 pm
by mk e
Or they want it to look like f1 tech
Ferrari is notoulrious for that game.... really only the feature's name is trickling down.
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:17 pm
by englertracing
ford is doing it on their 6.7 diesel.....
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:00 pm
by PackardV8
englertracing wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:17 pm
ford is doing it on their 6.7 diesel.....
Ford 6.0 had the turbo up top inside the vee fifteen years ago.
However, mounting the turbo inside the Vee is one thing; having the exhaust ports inside the vee is quite a bit less common.
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:19 pm
by englertracing
The 6.7 has the exhaust in the v, and the intakes on the outside of the head, they use the valve covers and intake manifolds.
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:31 pm
by 4vpc
F1 in the 80s perhaps, BMW had it in road cars 10yrs ago now, Merc are way behind.
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:14 pm
by ptuomov
I got one of those new amg biturbos on Monday. The driver experience is better than with the old amg biturbo or with latest bmw m5.
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:52 pm
by peejay
BMW turbo V8s have had "hot vees" for a long time now. Five-ten years?
Once again Mercedes is playing catch-up to BMW
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:00 pm
by Warp Speed
Hot V engine. Just like most things, been around for ever. Nice deal for a lot of reasons.
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:50 pm
by ptuomov
peejay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:52 pm
BMW turbo V8s have had "hot vees" for a long time now. Five-ten years?
Once again Mercedes is playing catch-up to BMW
BMW has been ahead of Daimler in engines recently, but after Daimler gave all the V8 development for passenger cars to AMG, they’ve caught up.
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:29 pm
by ptuomov
BMW has the patent on dual twin scroll turbos with crossover dual plane exhaust manifolds. That’s an edge, but the current AMG V8 package overall is better.
Plus Daimler is hugely ahead of BMW, google, Tesla, etc on autonomous driving technology.
Re: Mercedes mounts turbos inside the V
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:47 am
by kimosabi
4vpc wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:31 pm
F1 in the 80s perhaps, BMW had it in road cars 10yrs ago now, Merc are way behind.
Exactly. BMW S63 engine for example. Plus, every outboard V engine have reverse flow. Exhaust in the middle.