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That's not the point of this competition. It's to showcase the engine builders abilities, and to reward innovation. With a spec spring rule, you'd have 15 engines, all built to the minimum CID, with the lightest valvetrain available. The guy that can spend the most time on the spin-tron, will have a huge advantage. IMO, that would make for a boring competition.
I would have went 2.08" 55* if there was more time.
I would have like to have seen that as well, with cam#2 specifically. But yet I'm still thinking that any of this would fail to qualify anyone of us as anything but an average HOT ROD engine builder, not a professional one by any means.randy331 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:38 amI would have went 2.08" 55* if there was more time.
When I told one of the other guys on our team what I was gonna do, he said that won't help score. I said I don't think so either, but I want to see it anyway, and I'm staying 50* seats on the other heads, so they won't go backwards.
Part of doing the EMC ( or any testing ) is to see differences. It's easier to see differences with bigger changes.
Randy
Have you sold any of these engines?
I don't think ANYTHING is fixed. Who put YOU on the rules committee?David Vizard wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:50 pm OK here is where we seem to be at unless I am missing something.
370 to 470 inches, no more valve lift than 0.755 at zero lash. What else is there that looks like it is likely to be fixed as of now??
DV
Rick,Rick360 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:22 pmI don't think ANYTHING is fixed. Who put YOU on the rules committee?David Vizard wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:50 pm OK here is where we seem to be at unless I am missing something.
370 to 470 inches, no more valve lift than 0.755 at zero lash. What else is there that looks like it is likely to be fixed as of now??
DV
Rick
So, like me Walter, you have kept your ear to the ground for any info. I am blank on what is going on for the intake rules. Up till now I have assumed that we will most likely get a free choice of off the shelf 1 x 4 intakes which we can modify at least to a measurable extent. But what you are implying here is that we will get more leeway than that ---- good.Walter R. Malik wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:16 pm I am really looking forward to finding out the wording of the intake manifold rule which is said to allow quite a bit of ingenuity there...
It should be interesting to say the least.
Here's what Greg posted ...David Vizard wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:39 pmRick,Rick360 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:22 pmI don't think ANYTHING is fixed. Who put YOU on the rules committee?David Vizard wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:50 pm OK here is where we seem to be at unless I am missing something.
370 to 470 inches, no more valve lift than 0.755 at zero lash. What else is there that looks like it is likely to be fixed as of now??
DV
Rick
Don't quite see how your comment is warranted. I don't know anything for certain but this is the talk I hear. That is why I used the word 'seem' and asked the question 'What else is there that looks likely to be fixed ----'. How does any of that even remotely make you consider I am electing myself to the rules committee??
DV
Where did YOUR ci or valve lift limits come from? Greg hasn't posted those numbers. Post what YOU like or dislike in rules, don't make it seem like YOUR opinion is some consensus from the Speedtalk members. Wait for Greg to post HIS rules like everyone else.Gregory wrote:The guiding light for our first contest is an engine for a strong street/strip engine.
Rick,Rick360 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:13 pmHere's what Greg posted ...David Vizard wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:39 pmRick,
Don't quite see how your comment is warranted. I don't know anything for certain but this is the talk I hear. That is why I used the word 'seem' and asked the question 'What else is there that looks likely to be fixed ----'. How does any of that even remotely make you consider I am electing myself to the rules committee??
DVWhere did YOUR ci or valve lift limits come from? Greg hasn't posted those numbers. Post what YOU like or dislike in rules, don't make it seem like YOUR opinion is some consensus from the Speedtalk members. Wait for Greg to post HIS rules like everyone else.Gregory wrote:The guiding light for our first contest is an engine for a strong street/strip engine.
One SURE way to make a new engine contest a failure is to tell SOME people the rules before releasing them publicly.
Rick
