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3/16" SAE double flare unions - hey stubby !

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:56 am
by Dan Timberlake
The Autozone couplings/unions from two different manufacturers are no more than 5/8" long and made of brass. The tubing nuts have less than 3 turns of engagement (!) when first tightened by hand. That is true using commercially flared tubing, or tubing flared by me and my trusty 40 year old NAPA/New Britain flaring tool.

Online parts look equally short.
https://static.summitracing.com/global/ ... 405_ml.jpg

I expected Russel or FedHill or someone to offer couplings with proper longer engagement, and possibly made of steel.
No such luck.
http://store.fedhillusa.com/ua13br.aspx

I can appreciate potentially better sealing using a brass coupling, but the short engagement is going to be on my mind for the first panic stop for sure.

Has anyone found longer 3/16" SAE couplings ?

Re: 3/16" SAE double flare unions - hey stubby !

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:37 pm
by dave brode
Dan,

And what the heck hex size is on those danged things? No wrench that I have fits well.
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If you have room, you could use a flare union and tubing nuts.

Brass https://www.plews-edelmann.com/automoti ... -fittings/#

Steel http://www.eatonpowersource.com/cross-r ... 2060-5-5b/

Dave

Re: 3/16" SAE double flare unions - hey stubby !

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:16 pm
by ijames
McMaster Carr has a 45 deg SAE flared brass union, 3/16", at https://www.mcmaster.com/#50635K511 (nuts sold separately). Overall length is 1.04" but the pressure rating is only 1900 psi. Their steel parts, for steel tubing, are all 37 deg JIC, not 45 deg SAE. Grainger has Parker brand unions, but in 10-packs for $20. Also brass, looks like the same length, and the pressure rating is "450 to 2800 psi", whatever that means #-o . Maybe look online for a Parker catalog and see if they make steel 45 deg fittings?

Re: 3/16" SAE double flare unions - hey stubby !

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:43 pm
by BigBlocksOnTop2
Take a look at a NAPA store. There good with that kind of stuff.

Re: 3/16" SAE double flare unions - hey stubby !

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:31 pm
by AICLLC
Did you find anything? I'm having the same issue.

Re: 3/16" SAE double flare unions - hey stubby !

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:48 pm
by tjz450
FYC (for your consideration) Convert to JIC 37° steel fittings and 3/16 brakeline tubing, buy a flaring tool, Roloc. Practice a bunch until you can form flares without cracking by polishing end of tube, lube, go slow and don't make the flare bigger than necessary. There are dimension charts to size to. Use no aluminum fittings. JIC =AN In steel.