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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Frankshaft » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:19 am

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Thu May 04, 2017 3:12 am
anybody using one the chinese valve seat guide machines???? - especially the Serdi knock-off - whats it work like - comment plz - thats about the max I can afford - theres also a copy of the Vgs20 going for $6600 - but??hmmmmm - anybody got one - whats it work like?
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Post by 3rdcoastpowersports » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:15 am

machine shop tom wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:41 pm
proengines wrote:A little off topic but has anyone ever seen an IDL CNC seat/guide machine?


I've seen the IDL's that look like a retarded drill press but never a cnc one. There are some advertised for sale at a machinery dealer here, I'm just interested to know what they are like?

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Greg
Didn't IDL go out of business before the CNC thing got legs?

tom
Exact feedback we were looking for (or at least I was looking for). Thank you greatly for your feedback. Saved me $3k on a flight to china.
Moral of the story: save your money and buy a Newan epoc.

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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Keith Morganstein » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:36 pm

The Micron In website
https://micronin.com/#
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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Racing68 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:53 pm

Did anyone check out the one from Argentina at the PRI show. Kras Exacta DD. I didn't have time the one day and forgot to look at it before i left the second day.

http://norumequipment.com/wp-content/up ... sories.pdf

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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Frankshaft » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:58 am

Keith Morganstein wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:36 pm
The Micron In website
https://micronin.com/#
Those are pretty sweet right? The 6ga looks to be eerily similar to a rottler sg8 before they went all digital.

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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Frankshaft » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:01 am

Racing68 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:53 pm
Did anyone check out the one from Argentina at the PRI show. Kras Exacta DD. I didn't have time the one day and forgot to look at it before i left the second day.

http://norumequipment.com/wp-content/up ... sories.pdf
That's the equipment rep I am referring to above. He is a good guy, just a typical salesman. Whatever he is selling at the time, is the best. I can't tell you anything about that machine. See Keiths link above. That is a nice machine. If it works as good as it looks to. I know Dick was selling those for awhile, but they were slow to get apparently, and he didn't make as much on them.

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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Keith Morganstein » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pm

Frankshaft wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:58 am
Keith Morganstein wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:36 pm
The Micron In website
https://micronin.com/#
Those are pretty sweet right? The 6ga looks to be eerily similar to a rottler sg8 before they went all digital.
If you look at the photos of their engine machining shop, one of the the machines looks to be a Rottler SG8
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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Keith Morganstein » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:06 pm

Frankshaft wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:01 am
Racing68 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:53 pm
Did anyone check out the one from Argentina at the PRI show. Kras Exacta DD. I didn't have time the one day and forgot to look at it before i left the second day.

http://norumequipment.com/wp-content/up ... sories.pdf
That's the equipment rep I am referring to above. He is a good guy, just a typical salesman. Whatever he is selling at the time, is the best. I can't tell you anything about that machine. See Keiths link above. That is a nice machine. If it works as good as it looks to. I know Dick was selling those for awhile, but they were slow to get apparently, and he didn't make as much on them.
I have no first hand experience, but there has been a lot of complaints about the rep in the linked page.
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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Racing68 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:32 am

Joe Baker was the one that sent me info on that Argentina machine, the link i posted was one i found online. The thing that scares me on these types of machines is how do you order parts or need tech help and don't speak their language.

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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Keith Morganstein » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:20 am

No, not Joe Baker.
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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Frankshaft » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:28 am

Keith Morganstein wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:06 pm
Frankshaft wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:01 am
Racing68 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:53 pm
Did anyone check out the one from Argentina at the PRI show. Kras Exacta DD. I didn't have time the one day and forgot to look at it before i left the second day.

http://norumequipment.com/wp-content/up ... sories.pdf
That's the equipment rep I am referring to above. He is a good guy, just a typical salesman. Whatever he is selling at the time, is the best. I can't tell you anything about that machine. See Keiths link above. That is a nice machine. If it works as good as it looks to. I know Dick was selling those for awhile, but they were slow to get apparently, and he didn't make as much on them.
I have no first hand experience, but there has been a lot of complaints about the rep in the linked page.
I could see that. He is a very persistent salesman. He is a nice guy, but, that side of him definitely comes out. Like I said, he POUNDED on me to buy one of those machines I ironically made him aware of. The finance guy too, if I met him in person, he might just end up with a swollen lip and a bloody nose, lets just say that. I heard that whole Phoenix deal he was involved with, was headed by Marvin Wood, that could be why the complaints, and also why he doesn't sell any of it anymore.

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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by Bossman » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:54 am

sIMPLE FIX BUY ROTTLER MACHINES

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Re: NO! China made Seat and guide knockoff

Post by 3rdcoastpowersports » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:15 pm

Bossman wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:54 am
sIMPLE FIX BUY ROTTLER MACHINES
Why would u buy a new rottler over a new Serdi? Not an argumentitive question but an actual question. I have only used a Rottler a few years back at pri. What would u say are the advantages of a rottler vsg vs a serdi?

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