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Next thing in prime movers

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Post by 1989TransAm » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:59 pm

Only powered by rare earth magnets. I wonder if this motor only has one speed? I also see he started it with a hammer. :D

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Post by Dave Koehler » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:45 pm

That is pretty cool. I did see the hammer but never found out how it is started and more importantly how it is stopped.
Did find a video where a fellow read the patent and drew it up in CAD. There are a LOT of magnets in this thing.
I saw a vid where it was running around 2600. Wonder about the force created. Can I stop it by grabbing the shaft or get thrown across the room.

i will be interested to see if it is viable or someone exposes it as another free energy hoax or delusion
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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by Brian P » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:23 am

Hoax.

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Post by Dave Koehler » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:54 am

Brian P wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:23 am
Hoax.
Just being skeptical (a good thing) or have proof?

since it's been around for a few years now without mainstream praise I will remain skeptical.
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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by exhaustgases » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:41 pm

Magnets are essentially clean atomic energy, just not as strong. Magnetic force is used in all motors, the difference of this example and all the plug in motors, is how the force fields are changed, and how inefficient the magnets are in the electric motors. What is there to be skeptical about?
I guess you have never used or seen a magnet.
Magnets are not a hoax. And that thing was in a room filled with knowledgeable people they were fully qualified to spot a hoax.

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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by Brian P » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:09 pm

It's a hoax because it makes claims that violate the laws of thermodynamics.

Magnets are no more a source of "energy" than gravity is. YES, you can extract mechanical work by allowing two magnetically-attracted objects to become closer together via a suitable mechanism, but it's analogous to extracting mechanical work by allowing two gravitationally-attracted objects to become closer together via a suitable mechanism ... but the problem is that it takes an exactly equal and opposite amount of work to separate them again.

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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by 1989TransAm » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:10 pm

Dave Koehler wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:45 pm
That is pretty cool. I did see the hammer but never found out how it is started and more importantly how it is stopped.
Good point. Maybe it was a set of magnets that got moved by the hammer blow to get the thing going. Maybe use the hammer to knock the magnets back in the other direction to stop it. Kind of like dynamic breaking with an electric motor. If so that sucker would stop right quick.

As to why it has not gone further is probably a myriad of problems for practical use at this point in time.

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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by exhaustgases » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:51 am

Brian P wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:09 pm
It's a hoax because it makes claims that violate the laws of thermodynamics.

Magnets are no more a source of "energy" than gravity is. YES, you can extract mechanical work by allowing two magnetically-attracted objects to become closer together via a suitable mechanism, but it's analogous to extracting mechanical work by allowing two gravitationally-attracted objects to become closer together via a suitable mechanism ... but the problem is that it takes an exactly equal and opposite amount of work to separate them again.
So evidently you have no idea how an electric motor works. We are not talking "heat engines" here, so you can leave your thermodynamics at the door.
Just because the brain washing professors keep screaming it can't be done then yeah they be gods, lets just believe every word they say, toss out the old thinking abilities. I really don't see how inventions have ever come about with this attitude. But then again some of the best inventors never had a big expensive education. They accomplished things that were considered impossible or witch craft at the time.

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Post by Dave Koehler » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:18 am

If they can come up with an almost stone quiet generator run by this thing for the trailer I'm all in.
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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by Keith Morganstein » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:29 am

Just another perpetual motion machine. Same old pitch line... Yawn.
Be sure to invest some money in it :roll:

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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by Brian P » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:16 am

I know quite well how an electric motor works. The energy input is in the form of electricity ... volts x amps. It doesn't just magically spin and make power by itself. Not connected to a supply of the right kind of electricity, it sits there and does nothing.

That electricity, by the way, is generating magnetism in an electromagnet - not a permanent magnet. Some electric motors do indeed have permanent magnets inside them ... but unless combined with an electromagnet that reverses its polarity in a prescribed pattern (and which requires electricity to do so!), it sits there and does nothing.

If you think otherwise, it's you who doesn't know how an electric motor works ...

An electric motor is also not considered to be a "prime mover".

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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by Keith Morganstein » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:57 am

"A retired Turkish Police officer who's discovery has proved all the physicist wrong"

Love it! It's always someone without any engineering or science that invents these things.

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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by Keith Morganstein » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:04 pm

Dave Koehler wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:54 am
Brian P wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:23 am
Hoax.
Just being skeptical (a good thing) or have proof?

since it's been around for a few years now without mainstream praise I will remain skeptical.
This scammer "inventor" has been at it for a while. His first "invention" a generating system where two accumulators (alternators) drove each other' with "circuitry" only needing a brief start from a 12v car battery, then produced electricity for hours by " self running". That ran it's course.

So now the "rare earth magnet motor" . This a very easy scam requiring magnets and a small battery to spin the rotor at a fairly good rpm. Not much power though.

He was "selling" 2,000 units of a 5KVA free energy system for $15,000 euro. This was payable 1/3 when ordering the remaing $10,000 euro 15 days prior to delivery. That was 2015.

Free energy, get your free energy here!

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Re: Next thing in prime movers

Post by Keith Morganstein » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:12 pm

Keith Morganstein wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:04 pm

He was "selling" 2,000 units of a 5KVA free energy system for $15,000 euro. This was payable 1/3 when ordering the remaing $10,000 euro 15 days prior to delivery. That was 2015.

Free energy, get your free energy here!
(Looking to scam over 35 million in US dollars)

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