200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Transmission to Rear-end

Moderator: Team

flyingwedge
Expert
Expert
Posts: 507
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:12 pm

200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by flyingwedge » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:41 pm

According to Art Carr-yes. 750+ hp. Billet convertor with triple frictional area of lock-up convertor. Appears to be 2-$3k- less than comparable 4L80E, with Compushift controller. Anyone using one ? Thanks, flyingwedge. :)

shoedoos
Pro
Pro
Posts: 424
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:14 am
Location: New Zealand

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by shoedoos » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:50 pm

google turbo buick forums (there's a few) and check on there, plenty of people with the info you require

justahoby
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1060
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:28 am
Location: Temporarily in Stephenville, Texas, USA from Thunder Bay, Canada
Contact:

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by justahoby » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:24 pm

Anything you find I am interested to hear also...
As I'm approaching 40,I still think I'm 20. What the hell is wrong with me?

User avatar
Alan Roehrich
Guru
Guru
Posts: 2975
Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:58 pm
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Contact:

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by Alan Roehrich » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:27 pm

Lonnie Diers, Extreme Automatics, in Ohio.

pdq67
Guru
Guru
Posts: 6303
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by pdq67 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:09 pm

Please consider hunting up "Jakeshoe"...

pdq67

TexasT
New Member
New Member
Posts: 19
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:47 pm
Location: Texas

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by TexasT » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:22 am

While I'm not putting 750 hp in , I am running a 2004r.
I like it better than the 700r4 due to the fact it uses a 2.76 first gear as a opposed to the 700r4 using a deeper 3.06 first gear. This results in a larger jump to second. Might be good for some but the close ratio 4speed was invented for a reason. Keeping your engine in its peak torque parts of its curve is quite beneficial when participating in contests of acceleration.

There are areas to be addressed for the unit to gain longevity. It wasn't designed by GM to handle near what a Turbo Regal outs out stock so when the wick is turned up its flaws become apparent.

What would you be wanting to use one for?
Rich

flyingwedge
Expert
Expert
Posts: 507
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:12 pm

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by flyingwedge » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:34 pm

TexasT wrote:While I'm not putting 750 hp in , I am running a 2004r.
I like it better than the 700r4 due to the fact it uses a 2.76 first gear as a opposed to the 700r4 using a deeper 3.06 first gear. This results in a larger jump to second. Might be good for some but the close ratio 4speed was invented for a reason. Keeping your engine in its peak torque parts of its curve is quite beneficial when participating in contests of acceleration.

There are areas to be addressed for the unit to gain longevity. It wasn't designed by GM to handle near what a Turbo Regal outs out stock so when the wick is turned up its flaws become apparent.

What would you be wanting to use one for?
I couldn't trust all the hype,(Art Carr/etc). 540" mopar wedge, in a 70' Challenger, serious street, road course and drags. I went with a 4L80E, more $'s initially, but likey more reliable/cheaper, long term. Thanks, flyingwedge.

pdq67
Guru
Guru
Posts: 6303
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by pdq67 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:05 pm

You do know that there may be two Art Carr's, his old company and himself if not mistaken. Might want to talk to the real Art Carr??

pdq67

lefty o
Pro
Pro
Posts: 388
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:50 am

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by lefty o » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:20 pm

you want CPT, thats Art's shop now days, he sold his namesake a bunch of years ago. i wouldnt run 1000hp thru a 2004r, but 750-800hp, no problem. ive run one for a lot of years, and its a great transmission when properly built.

flyingwedge
Expert
Expert
Posts: 507
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:12 pm

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by flyingwedge » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:06 pm

lefty o wrote:you want CPT, thats Art's shop now days, he sold his namesake a bunch of years ago. i wouldnt run 1000hp thru a 2004r, but 750-800hp, no problem. ive run one for a lot of years, and its a great transmission when properly built.
>> OK, Who built your trans ? Price tag ? Thanks, flyingwedge.

lefty o
Pro
Pro
Posts: 388
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:50 am

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by lefty o » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:47 pm

Art Carr built mine , back when he owned Art Carr transmissions. its been a long time, so i honestly dont remember what it cost or what it would cost now. mine was built with al the goodies they had, except no full manual valve body. mine had the auto/manual valve body in it, and non lockup converter. ive alway thought it was a great trans, but i will find out probably next year just how much it will really take...

pdq67
Guru
Guru
Posts: 6303
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by pdq67 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:16 pm

How about Bruce out on the east coast??

pdq67

TexasT
New Member
New Member
Posts: 19
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:47 pm
Location: Texas

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by TexasT » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:55 am

pdq67 wrote:How about Bruce out on the east coast??

pdq67
Curious, who is Bruce on the east coast?
Does he have a shop?
Rich

BBPanel
New Member
New Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:19 pm
Location: DFW

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by BBPanel » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:25 pm

I suspect he meant Bruce Toelle on "west" coast.

TexasT
New Member
New Member
Posts: 19
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:47 pm
Location: Texas

Re: 200-4L automatic for serious hp ?

Post by TexasT » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:51 pm

I don't think Bruce Tolle is building any more. I believe he has had some health issues but I do know he posts occasionally on the turbobuick.com transmission section. You might try to contact him and see.
Rich

Post Reply