Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by lefty o » Wed May 23, 2018 1:35 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 11:14 pm
lefty o wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 10:49 pm
no one is being forced to work anywhere. you sign a contract, then the problem of being underpaid is on you.
You missed the main points, it's very/prohibitively expensive to fight in arbitration singly, and if the contract agreed to is not being followed to your satisfaction, you CAN"T go to court.
i understand the whole thing perfectly.

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by j-c-c » Wed May 23, 2018 7:45 pm

lefty o wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 1:35 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 11:14 pm
lefty o wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 10:49 pm
no one is being forced to work anywhere. you sign a contract, then the problem of being underpaid is on you.
You missed the main points, it's very/prohibitively expensive to fight in arbitration singly, and if the contract agreed to is not being followed to your satisfaction, you CAN"T go to court.
i understand the whole thing perfectly.
Yes, that is painfully obvious by your detailed and reasoned responses to the counter points raised so far. #-o

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by j-c-c » Wed May 23, 2018 8:25 pm

Ebay today announced new terms to user agreement, effective 6/21/18 including:

"YOU AND EBAY AGREE THAT EACH OF US MAY BRING CLAIMS AGAINST THE OTHER ONLY ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND NOT AS A PLAINTIFF OR CLASS MEMBER IN ANY PURPORTED CLASS,......" among other items.

Gee, nobody saw that coming. #-o

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by lefty o » Wed May 23, 2018 9:30 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 7:45 pm
lefty o wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 1:35 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 11:14 pm


You missed the main points, it's very/prohibitively expensive to fight in arbitration singly, and if the contract agreed to is not being followed to your satisfaction, you CAN"T go to court.
i understand the whole thing perfectly.
Yes, that is painfully obvious by your detailed and reasoned responses to the counter points raised so far. #-o
just because you are mentally challenged by the fact NO ONE IS FORCED to stay at a job they dont like. you sign a contract, you live with it, thats the way life works. unless your one of them kids that was raised getting trophies for everything, and getting what you want always. just because you cant grasp the concept of a contract...... #-o

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by 1989TransAm » Thu May 24, 2018 12:08 am

j-c-c wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 8:25 pm
Ebay today announced new terms to user agreement, effective 6/21/18 including:

"YOU AND EBAY AGREE THAT EACH OF US MAY BRING CLAIMS AGAINST THE OTHER ONLY ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND NOT AS A PLAINTIFF OR CLASS MEMBER IN ANY PURPORTED CLASS,......" among other items.

Gee, nobody saw that coming. #-o
If you do not like it do not buy at Ebay. #-o [-X

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by Firedome8 » Thu May 24, 2018 12:44 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 12:08 am
j-c-c wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 8:25 pm
Ebay today announced new terms to user agreement, effective 6/21/18 including:

"YOU AND EBAY AGREE THAT EACH OF US MAY BRING CLAIMS AGAINST THE OTHER ONLY ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND NOT AS A PLAINTIFF OR CLASS MEMBER IN ANY PURPORTED CLASS,......" among other items.

Gee, nobody saw that coming. #-o
If you do not like it do not buy at Ebay. #-o [-X
If it was only EBay. You think that decision was to help regular people you are truly blind.

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by j-c-c » Thu May 24, 2018 9:21 am

lefty o wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:30 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 7:45 pm
lefty o wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 1:35 pm


i understand the whole thing perfectly.
Yes, that is painfully obvious by your detailed and reasoned responses to the counter points raised so far. #-o
just because you are mentally challenged by the fact NO ONE IS FORCED to stay at a job they dont like. you sign a contract, you live with it, thats the way life works. unless your one of them kids that was raised getting trophies for everything, and getting what you want always. just because you cant grasp the concept of a contract...... #-o
If life is so simple as you attempt to explain, why are courtrooms so filled with parties arguing over signed contracts?
Think this time before you respond.
I seriously doubt you understand that contracts can be subject to legal interpretation, they are NOT end all, be all till death due us part pieces of paper, but of course the world needs sheep, and you appear to be a willing follower, and questioning one's master, is too mentally unsettling to be considered.

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by RevTheory » Thu May 24, 2018 9:59 am

I was a branch manager for quite large mortgage lending institution nearly 20 years ago and all of our loan application packages included an arbitration agreement.

Mistakes happen and need to be dealt with but there's no reason that an angry asshole who's probably been that way his whole life (ahem) should be able to wipe out a multi-million dollar company with thousands of employees that services tens of thousands of mortgages with a frivolous lawsuit. Let's sit down with an arbitrator settle it.

The only reason you trolls are up in arms is because Gorsuch was appointed by Donald Trump.

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by engineczar » Thu May 24, 2018 10:55 am

j-c-c wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 9:09 am

4 Justices do not agree with you. Requiring one to give up your right to your day in court, a long standing time honored pillar of our legal system, in order to be gainfully employed, when your other rights have been violated, does not seem to me, to meet the spirit of the law.
Wait, so the ruling means no one can take their employer to court?

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by lefty o » Thu May 24, 2018 12:26 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 9:21 am
lefty o wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:30 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 7:45 pm


Yes, that is painfully obvious by your detailed and reasoned responses to the counter points raised so far. #-o
just because you are mentally challenged by the fact NO ONE IS FORCED to stay at a job they dont like. you sign a contract, you live with it, thats the way life works. unless your one of them kids that was raised getting trophies for everything, and getting what you want always. just because you cant grasp the concept of a contract...... #-o
If life is so simple as you attempt to explain, why are courtrooms so filled with parties arguing over signed contracts?
Think this time before you respond.
I seriously doubt you understand that contracts can be subject to legal interpretation, they are NOT end all, be all till death due us part pieces of paper, but of course the world needs sheep, and you appear to be a willing follower, and questioning one's master, is too mentally unsettling to be considered.
its really simple, they signed a contract agreeing to the terms. if they dont like it go find a different job. it is that simple. its just you whiny liberals that cant be responsible for their own actions.

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by 1989TransAm » Thu May 24, 2018 12:45 pm

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by j-c-c » Thu May 24, 2018 8:24 pm

lefty o wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 12:26 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 9:21 am
lefty o wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:30 pm


just because you are mentally challenged by the fact NO ONE IS FORCED to stay at a job they dont like. you sign a contract, you live with it, thats the way life works. unless your one of them kids that was raised getting trophies for everything, and getting what you want always. just because you cant grasp the concept of a contract...... #-o
If life is so simple as you attempt to explain, why are courtrooms so filled with parties arguing over signed contracts?
Think this time before you respond.
I seriously doubt you understand that contracts can be subject to legal interpretation, they are NOT end all, be all till death due us part pieces of paper, but of course the world needs sheep, and you appear to be a willing follower, and questioning one's master, is too mentally unsettling to be considered.
its really simple, they signed a contract agreeing to the terms. if they dont like it go find a different job. it is that simple. its just you whiny liberals that cant be responsible for their own actions.
You must be really dense, sorry to be so blunt,
dude answer this very simple question, you keep advoiding it,
"what choices do you have if employer does not meet their obligations under the signed contract"?
Arbitration at great cost or quit, because court is off the table, that opens the door to gross employer abuse.

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by lefty o » Thu May 24, 2018 9:16 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 8:24 pm
lefty o wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 12:26 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 9:21 am


If life is so simple as you attempt to explain, why are courtrooms so filled with parties arguing over signed contracts?
Think this time before you respond.
I seriously doubt you understand that contracts can be subject to legal interpretation, they are NOT end all, be all till death due us part pieces of paper, but of course the world needs sheep, and you appear to be a willing follower, and questioning one's master, is too mentally unsettling to be considered.
its really simple, they signed a contract agreeing to the terms. if they dont like it go find a different job. it is that simple. its just you whiny liberals that cant be responsible for their own actions.
You must be really dense, sorry to be so blunt,
dude answer this very simple question, you keep advoiding it,
"what choices do you have if employer does not meet their obligations under the signed contract"?
Arbitration at great cost or quit, because court is off the table, that opens the door to gross employer abuse.
sorry but your the dense one. what if the employer doesnt meet its contractual obligation is not what this was about!

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by 1989TransAm » Fri May 25, 2018 12:11 am

Exactly. ^^^^^^^^^^ J-C-C is deflecting once again. [-X

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Re: Supreme delivers a big blow to 25mil+ workers

Post by j-c-c » Fri May 25, 2018 9:24 am

lefty o wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 9:16 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 8:24 pm
lefty o wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 12:26 pm


its really simple, they signed a contract agreeing to the terms. if they dont like it go find a different job. it is that simple. its just you whiny liberals that cant be responsible for their own actions.
You must be really dense, sorry to be so blunt,
dude answer this very simple question, you keep advoiding it,
"what choices do you have if employer does not meet their obligations under the signed contract"?
Arbitration at great cost or quit, because court is off the table, that opens the door to gross employer abuse.
sorry but your the dense one. what if the employer doesnt meet its contractual obligation is not what this was about!
In your mind.

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