The Nat'l Debt?

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The Nat'l Debt?

Post by pdq67 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:49 pm

Is ANYBODY even trying to discuss dropping our Nat'l Debt?

What's going on with it?

ANYTHING/NOTHING?

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by axegrinder » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:15 pm

pdq67 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:49 pm
Is ANYBODY even trying to discuss dropping our Nat'l Debt?

What's going on with it?

ANYTHING/NOTHING?

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The Ponzi scheme won't blow up because inflation will be used against us. If we're lucky, America's youth will be screwed with no buying power for their dollar. If we're not lucky, WE will have no buying power for our dollar.

The best case is not good.
Trump might screw us
HILLARY WILL SCREW US

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by sanfordandson » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:48 pm

pdq67 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:49 pm
Is ANYBODY even trying to discuss dropping our Nat'l Debt?

What's going on with it?

ANYTHING/NOTHING?

pdq67
Nope..trump approved raising the debt limit and it looks like it will need to happen again soon.

Another failed promise.

Remember not to long ago he was bragging about a debt reduction.... :lol: :^o :^o

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by GARY C » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:53 pm

As long as the American people are willing to live in personal debt then so will the nation!
Our entire monetary system lives off of consumer debt and until it crashes and the people wake up it will only get worse.

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Post by Firedome8 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:52 am

a tax cut for the corporations should help drive up the deficit. Doesn't the stock market say corporations are already doing ok ? What makes the economy ramp up is consumer spending . And the Orange one wants to cut his taxes and help the 1% he said farmers are being helped by eliminating the inheritance tax,, yea about 40 or so fall into that tax situation. Read what the founding fathers had to say about inheritance of wealth,,you end up with a holes like rump. with out inheritance rump would be a carnival barker.

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by sanfordandson » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:52 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:52 am
a tax cut for the corporations should help drive up the deficit. Doesn't the stock market say corporations are already doing ok ? What makes the economy ramp up is consumer spending . And the Orange one wants to cut his taxes and help the 1% he said farmers are being helped by eliminating the inheritance tax,, yea about 40 or so fall into that tax situation. Read what the founding fathers had to say about inheritance of wealth,,you end up with a holes like rump. with out inheritance rump would be a carnival barker.
Yep..the stock market has been on the rise since about march of 2009. The fat cats are making billions. The orange sheep are proud of trump continuing the stock market uptick but i bet none of them personally profit from it.

Of course they will all lie and come on here saying they all own stocks and mutual funds... :lol:

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by GARY C » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:19 pm

Actually everyone that got in the market at the upper $6000 rang have basically tippled their money just like those who got out when warned to before the crash and move their money to gold or silver also profited during the down fall!

It all requires learning how things work and then working them.

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by exhaustgases » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:42 pm

GARY C wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:53 pm
As long as the American people are willing to live in personal debt then so will the nation!
Our entire monetary system lives off of consumer debt and until it crashes and the people wake up it will only get worse.
Debt is forced on us all. That is number one reason for the demon rat congress in 1976 banning the homesteading act. They don't need anyone living freely and with no debt. It is the demo c rat way. They have indebted the country,( we have had no right wing people in office till recently) (they have all been demo c rats in republican clothes since before ww2). I think Kennedy tried to fix stuff and we all know how well that worked.

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by GARY C » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:49 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:42 pm
GARY C wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:53 pm
As long as the American people are willing to live in personal debt then so will the nation!
Our entire monetary system lives off of consumer debt and until it crashes and the people wake up it will only get worse.
Debt is forced on us all. That is number one reason for the demon rat congress in 1976 banning the homesteading act. They don't need anyone living freely and with no debt. It is the demo c rat way. They have indebted the country,( we have had no right wing people in office till recently) (they have all been demo c rats in republican clothes since before ww2). I think Kennedy tried to fix stuff and we all know how well that worked.
I disagree, I live in Texas my house is homesteaded and does reduce property tax but yes we still have to pay taxes but we do use stuff so that could be argued both ways but we choose to live with car payments credit card debt and on and on.
I lived that way until I was 38 and then learned I didn't have to. now I have 0 debt including my home, many that I know have done the same.
Dave Ramsey has helped 10's of thousands do the same thing, I learned about him after the fact but his program would have made it easier.

EDIT! I forgot to say I do not agree with Dave Ramsey on his investment advice at this point of the market.

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by exhaustgases » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:09 pm

GARY C wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:49 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:42 pm
GARY C wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:53 pm
As long as the American people are willing to live in personal debt then so will the nation!
Our entire monetary system lives off of consumer debt and until it crashes and the people wake up it will only get worse.
Debt is forced on us all. That is number one reason for the demon rat congress in 1976 banning the homesteading act. They don't need anyone living freely and with no debt. It is the demo c rat way. They have indebted the country,( we have had no right wing people in office till recently) (they have all been demo c rats in republican clothes since before ww2). I think Kennedy tried to fix stuff and we all know how well that worked.
I disagree, I live in Texas my house is homesteaded and does reduce property tax but yes we still have to pay taxes but we do use stuff so that could be argued both ways but we choose to live with car payments credit card debt and on and on.
I lived that way until I was 38 and then learned I didn't have to. now I have 0 debt including my home, many that I know have done the same.
Dave Ramsey has helped 10's of thousands do the same thing, I learned about him after the fact but his program would have made it easier.

EDIT! I forgot to say I do not agree with Dave Ramsey on his investment advice at this point of the market.
No real homestead has taxes on it, similar to a mining claim zero taxes. And no Allodial title land has it either, as there is no other superior land lord to the land.
How did you acquire a homestead? Did you get it from the government before 1976? If not you purchased a former homestead and that's all different stuff. If there is a title to the land its not a homestead the state issues the title, meaning the state owns the land, you have financial interest in the land that is all.

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by GARY C » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:22 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:09 pm
GARY C wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:49 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:42 pm


Debt is forced on us all. That is number one reason for the demon rat congress in 1976 banning the homesteading act. They don't need anyone living freely and with no debt. It is the demo c rat way. They have indebted the country,( we have had no right wing people in office till recently) (they have all been demo c rats in republican clothes since before ww2). I think Kennedy tried to fix stuff and we all know how well that worked.
I disagree, I live in Texas my house is homesteaded and does reduce property tax but yes we still have to pay taxes but we do use stuff so that could be argued both ways but we choose to live with car payments credit card debt and on and on.
I lived that way until I was 38 and then learned I didn't have to. now I have 0 debt including my home, many that I know have done the same.
Dave Ramsey has helped 10's of thousands do the same thing, I learned about him after the fact but his program would have made it easier.

EDIT! I forgot to say I do not agree with Dave Ramsey on his investment advice at this point of the market.
No real homestead has taxes on it, similar to a mining claim zero taxes. And no Allodial title land has it either, as there is no other superior land lord to the land.
How did you acquire a homestead? Did you get it from the government before 1976? If not you purchased a former homestead and that's all different stuff. If there is a title to the land its not a homestead the state issues the title, meaning the state owns the land, you have financial interest in the land that is all.
I agree there should be no land tax in the since that you are able to loose you home once it is payed for. I purchased my home around 97 and when I went in to dispute the rise in my property tax the guy said here fill out this homestead and it will reduce your taxes. I know people who have built houses in early to mid 90's who have a homestead tax exemption as well.

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by exhaustgases » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:51 pm

A homestead is given out by the us government a processing fee is charged if I remember correctly. A true homestead has zero taxes and zero building codes. Just watch the Alaska show with Jewels family.

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by David Redszus » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:14 pm

a tax cut for the corporations should help drive up the deficit.
That is totally wrong and an example of Democrap lies.

Every federal tax cut (Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton) has increased tax revenue. No exceptions.
Increases in revenue are necessary to pay down the debt.

The increases in debt are entirely due to increased government spending not revenue reduction.
The increases in debt are entirely due to increased government spending not revenue reduction.
The increases in debt are entirely due to increased government spending not revenue reduction.
The increases in debt are entirely due to increased government spending not revenue reduction.
The increases in debt are entirely due to increased government spending not revenue reduction.
The increases in debt are entirely due to increased government spending not revenue reduction.
The increases in debt are entirely due to increased government spending not revenue reduction.
The increases in debt are entirely due to increased government spending not revenue reduction.

How often must it be said before it will sink in to the very dense minds of leftist socialists?

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Re: The Nat'l Debt?

Post by pdq67 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:20 pm

They generally already have their fortunes made so flat don't care about rest of us.

That and working the system to constantly increase their wealth!

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