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Garage shop building

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:52 pm
by SchmidtMotorWorks
I am building a garage shop in Orange CA, if anyone has any words of wisdom regarding building permits, electrical work, phase converters, concrete work, I'm listening.

Re: Garage shop building

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:57 pm
by cpmotors
SchmidtMotorWorks wrote:I am building a garage shop in Orange CA, if anyone has any words of wisdom regarding building permits, electrical work, phase converters, concrete work, I'm listening.
This is the 20hp CNC phase converter I run, highly recommend this company. Very nice unit, quiet, very helpful tech service.

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Garage Shop

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:55 pm
by blakdawg
Hey Jon,What are you planning for equipment,etc.

Re: Garage shop building

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:03 pm
by CamKing
SchmidtMotorWorks wrote:I am building a garage shop in Orange CA, if anyone has any words of wisdom.....
Get the heck out of California. :lol:
There is no state worse to run a business in.

When I was in CA, the city, county and state government's attitude was always "What can you and your business do for us" and "why should we allow you to do business here".

As soon as I moved to NC, that all changed 180 degrees.

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:10 pm
by SchmidtMotorWorks
Get the heck out of California
I know what you mean. CA has more than its share of problems, when I had my shop in Huntington Beach it was a big problem at times.

I know Virgil Hartman moved his shop to SC, about 20 years ago, I went to check it out. The deals looked good and I saw the best dirt track racing ever there.

I just have too many ties here, with my regular job (the one that pays for my racing stuff). And now this is the cheap place to live, I bought my house here in Orange for less than half of what it sold for two years ago.

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:20 pm
by SchmidtMotorWorks
Hey Jon,What are you planning for equipment,etc.
I have one Mori CNC, and will have a lathe, TIG and some grinders.

I like to make casting patterns mostly and machine some castings.

My plan right now is to build a concrete block building and run power from the house with a phase converter.

I cleared the lot and I am almost finished with grading it.

I'm almost to the point of getting permits etc. I don't want top make any wrong moves here at this point. I made some mistakes in my Huntington Beach shop that cost me a month of extra work getting certifications and permits.

One thing I'm wondering is what kind of roof blocks sound the best?

I'm half tempted to build it underground but I guess the permitting would be difficult. Some people are suggesting to skip the permits but that sounds like trouble.

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:03 pm
by CamKing
SchmidtMotorWorks wrote: I bought my house here in Orange for less than half of what it sold for two years ago.
I guess I got out at the right time. I sold my house in HB for twice what I paid for it 2 years earlier.

It was strange to see how the local government out here actually wanted to help me.
Before I finished my rental buildings, I had people from the county helping me find tenants for it. They even wanted to do a ribbon cutting to get me tree ink in the local papers.
Back in the O.C., I was supposed to feel honored to be allowed to do business in their fine county.

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:58 pm
by 1989TransAm
...and Orange County is one of the better ones in California.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:49 pm
by Keith Morganstein
Not much better in MA than CA for operating a business.

Phase converters.

You can build them yourself if so inclined. I have done several and they work well.

I based mine off of plans and tips found here:

Ihttp://www.metalwebnews.com/electric.html

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:39 pm
by SchmidtMotorWorks
You can build them yourself if so inclined.
I saw some Utube videos of homemade phase converters, and decided they were best left to people with a natural aptitude for electronics.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:47 pm
by cpmotors
I am no electrical whiz but I do like the fact mine has a built in "soft start" feature, and its built here in Wisconsin about 90 mins. away :D

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:33 am
by SchmidtMotorWorks
Yah that one looks good to me, I am wondering if the digital one is worth the extra cost.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:17 am
by cpmotors
I cant say the extra cost would be to me but...
If you call them and talk to the tech guy-Jay i think- he can help you better than me. I would think it depends on how sensitive Mori Seki controls are, but I cant see it being an issue.

I'm sure you have a good number of ideas but here's some of mine-

-Ceiling fans, (house 5-blade reversible, not lame shop fans)
-LOTS of light with multiple options to turn different groups on
-Outlets all over, even up high on the wall for lights, clocks,etc.
-U COAT IT brand epoxy paint on floor, skip the flakes. Makes for a brighter shop and easy to clean dirt,oil,coolant,grease off floor.
-Sink and hot water
-I have 10' ceilings in my shop, so I have OSB on lower 4' of walls and painted white drywall on upper. Makes it easy to mount stuff on lower part of walls and no worries about dings/nicks, bright reflective on top.
-Air Compressor- I dont know how big you can build but I wanted as much floor space as possible, and my Air Compressor just seemed to waste space and was always a pain to drain moisture, and the nice mess that makes. I designed and made a bracket that mounts mine up on the wall in the corner above my rear door. I made a bracket to turn the pump 90* and added a pipe nipple and ball valve to the now bottom side of the tank. Added 6' of 3/8" clear hose, open door, open ball valve and blow all the moisture outside :D I'v thought about mounting a train steam whistle outside and hooking that hose up to it more than once........

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:25 pm
by SchmidtMotorWorks
Nice looking shop, I'm thinking of building an underground bunker for my compressor to avoid the noise.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:04 pm
by cpmotors
Thanks-
It had occured to me afterwards I could have actually remotely mounted the motor and pump separate from the tank in its own isolation area, something I may still do sometime.