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reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
-just curious if anyone has any data on how reaction time translates to win percentage etc..
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
All other things being equal, it's 100%.
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
Correct!PackardV8 wrote:All other things being equal, it's 100%.
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-but i already knew that
-i also know i can win more races with a .530 light, very soft...i know....than a .499 light..
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
Probably depends on what kind of racing?
Pro tree heads up
Pro tree index
Bracket racing
etc
I'd say in bracket racing reaction time wins about every time.
(good racer with good RT probably won't have a good ET to dial in)
Also, I've won many races with .499 lite, usually last one to leave so other guy red-lights 1st.
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I'd say in bracket racing reaction time wins about every time.
(good racer with good RT probably won't have a good ET to dial in)
Also, I've won many races with .499 lite, usually last one to leave so other guy red-lights 1st.
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
thanks John,John Wallace wrote:Probably depends on what kind of racing?
Pro tree heads up
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etc
I'd say in bracket racing reaction time wins about every time.
(good racer with good RT probably won't have a good ET to dial in)
Also, I've won many races with .499 lite, usually last one to leave so other guy red-lights 1st.
-thinking bracket racing, .500 tree
-never won with a .499 myself
-what kind of reaction time are most guys shooting for? .505, .510, .515 etc??
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
Me, I usually went for the .510 - .515 range.
I know a few who go for the 5-ohs all the time.
But it is a lot easier to red-light with those.
A little too far bump in, traction better that round, etc.
If you're the quicker guy, it is easier to get the other guy red-lighting 1st.
I know a few who go for the 5-ohs all the time.
But it is a lot easier to red-light with those.
A little too far bump in, traction better that round, etc.
If you're the quicker guy, it is easier to get the other guy red-lighting 1st.
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
-that's usually the range i shoot for too, .510-.515John Wallace wrote:Me, I usually went for the .510 - .515 range.
I know a few who go for the 5-ohs all the time.
But it is a lot easier to red-light with those.
A little too far bump in, traction better that round, etc.
If you're the quicker guy, it is easier to get the other guy red-lighting 1st.
-but there must be some data, round numbers, etc as to how successful a .510 light is 50% win, 60%, 70%, +++..
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
-talking to buddy at the track today...i asked him how successful a .510 light is...
--- his reply was it depends...and .511 light is 90% Win...? Not sure how he came up with that
-he also had never won with a redlight, until last year...he redlit with a .496 and the other car crossed the centerline nearly taking him out!
--- his reply was it depends...and .511 light is 90% Win...? Not sure how he came up with that
-he also had never won with a redlight, until last year...he redlit with a .496 and the other car crossed the centerline nearly taking him out!
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
In bracket racing, it would probably be hard to figure it out for sure.
If one has a good light (compared to competitor) he would probably let off at the finish line.
(slower than dial-in)
If he has a worse light but runs the number and the competitor doesn't do it right, he could win.
So, was it his dial-in ET that won or his reaction time?
There are so many ways to win in bracket racing, a 'good package' is what really wins.
If one has a good light (compared to competitor) he would probably let off at the finish line.
(slower than dial-in)
If he has a worse light but runs the number and the competitor doesn't do it right, he could win.
So, was it his dial-in ET that won or his reaction time?
There are so many ways to win in bracket racing, a 'good package' is what really wins.
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
-i agree John, hard to say for sure, it's kinda like could'a, would'a,should'a...John Wallace wrote:In bracket racing, it would probably be hard to figure it out for sure.
If one has a good light (compared to competitor) he would probably let off at the finish line.
(slower than dial-in)
If he has a worse light but runs the number and the competitor doesn't do it right, he could win.
So, was it his dial-in ET that won or his reaction time?
There are so many ways to win in bracket racing, a 'good package' is what really wins.
-buddy also said a .520 light is around 50% Win......big difference!!!
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
I'm surprised at these answers, but I don't doubt them. But, I would have thought since the tree is not a randomly timed sequence it could be anticipated to within less than 0.100. Apparently not.PackardV8 wrote:All other things being equal, it's 100%.
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
The discussion mostly talks about a 500 full tree ego a .500 is a perfect light, .499 is a redlight.140Air wrote:I'm surprised at these answers, but I don't doubt them. But, I would have thought since the tree is not a randomly timed sequence it could be anticipated to within less than 0.100. Apparently not.PackardV8 wrote:All other things being equal, it's 100%.
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
Yep, there are so many ways to race and win.Have won many races with the slower light, all about being able to run the number on the window and making the finish line as close as possible
To be truly good, you should know your competitor's 'style'.
I know a guy who does this and can dial his car to always 'let' the other guy cross the line first if he knows they are a 'sand-bagger'.
(the other guy usually broke out)
Or he would dial it heads up and just stay ahead of the other guy, because he knew he could 'tree' him.
He changed his 'style' so much it was hard to know his 'style'.
There you dial tight, and cut a stellar light against him.
In the end, it's the total package of RT and ET.
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Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
Many good answers, but a better light is not always a guarantee of a win. I have won many a race with a light twice as bad as my opponent because I make the race appear to be something it isn’t, and force my opponent into making a mistake on the big end, because they are just dialers.
Re: reaction times vs win/loss percentage?
I wonder how long it will be before some nerd with a tv camera focused on the tree, and some software automates the whole launch "thing".
You may be damned good, but can you beat a computer that measures in fractions of microseconds.
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You may be damned good, but can you beat a computer that measures in fractions of microseconds.
Some wimp you have never heard of, with his keyboard and his mouse is coming to get you hahaha..............
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