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I spent a good amount of time yesterday researching mycoplasma and R/A came up over and over. It may be worth your time to do the same. Pretty interesting stuff and I ordered some colloidal silver because of it.

Big pharma is a bunch of bullshit and we have to get to the root cause of the issue.
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I tried methyltrexate but pills and injections. I felt like death. I'm on lueflunomide now. It helps but it's no miracle cure. The possible side effects and cost of biologics scare the hell out of me. i won't try them.
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Supplemental insurance will help bridge the gap. I assume you dont have much of a retirement fund?
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RevTheory wrote:You may want to dig pretty deep into autoimmune disease as the underlying cause. I've been dealing with it for over a decade now and I've seen many times in my studies how RA is a symptom of it.

Something, food allergy, leaky gut, low-grade but long-winded viral, bacterial, fungal infection... something may have your immune system wigged out and it's turned on you. RA is when it's turned on your cartilage.

I hope it helps.

^^^^^^^^^THIS!

I've had Crohn's since I was 19 years old (I'm 42 now). Some of the same drugs are used to treat RA as Crohn's. I refuse to participate in making any drug companies any richer while poisoning myself if I can at all help it. My Crohn's has been in remission for about 5 years since I went on a very clean and gluten free diet. I'm convinced wheat is the number one cause of my disease. The other main thing I try to avoid is antibiotics in chicken, eggs, and milk. Organic only. Most people roll their eyes at my diet but if they had terrible stomach cramps for years and sh!t enough blood, they would try it too I'm sure! :D
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woody b wrote:Interesting. My Mom developed Crohns after having shingles.
Strange. I had a shingles flare when I was 19! Then Crohn's shortly after.
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A couple things. Organic, antibiotic free, steroid free, whatever free food was mentioned. A good friend of mine had a Great Uncle that was a hog farmer. He also had a garden, chickens ect. Pretty much everything he ate was something he had grown. He had a massive stroke and died. He was the kind of person who pretty much never went to a Doctor. After his death a Doctor said eating too much pork caused his massive stroke. He was 94 years old. That doesn't mean I'll be "ready" to die if I make it to 94, but I'm not scared to eat pork.

Apple Cider vinegar. I used to have terrible heartburn. An old racing friend of mine was friends with an old Indian medicine man. He said to take a spoon full of organic (non pasturized) apple cider vinegar every day. I've been doing that for over 30 years and I never have heartburn. I'm 52 years old. I'm 5'9", and 215 pounds, and I eat a lot of red meat. My Cholesterol numbers are excellent, my blood pressure is never higher than 110 over 70, and even though both of my parents and 3 of my grandparents had type 2 diabetes my A1C is 5. Some claim that apple cider vinegar helps with all this stuff. Maybe it helps with RA too.

I need to add. A spoon full of apple cider vinegar is AWFUL, but I take one every day.
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woody b wrote:A couple things. Organic, antibiotic free, steroid free, whatever free food was mentioned. A good friend of mine had a Great Uncle that was a hog farmer. He also had a garden, chickens ect. Pretty much everything he ate was something he had grown. He had a massive stroke and died. He was the kind of person who pretty much never went to a Doctor. After his death a Doctor said eating too much pork caused his massive stroke. He was 94 years old. That doesn't mean I'll be "ready" to die if I make it to 94, but I'm not scared to eat pork.

Apple Cider vinegar. I used to have terrible heartburn. An old racing friend of mine was friends with an old Indian medicine man. He said to take a spoon full of organic (non pasturized) apple cider vinegar every day. I've been doing that for over 30 years and I never have heartburn. I'm 52 years old. I'm 5'9", and 215 pounds, and I eat a lot of red meat. My Cholesterol numbers are excellent, my blood pressure is never higher than 110 over 70, and even though both of my parents and 3 of my grandparents had type 2 diabetes my A1C is 5. Some claim that apple cider vinegar helps with all this stuff. Maybe it helps with RA too.

I need to add. A spoon full of apple cider vinegar is AWFUL, but I take one every day.
I have posted this before several times.

There is/was a pair of Aussie Dr's that got a Nobel Peace Prize for finding out that something stupid like raw cabbage juice will help fight acid reflux. It seems the juice has enzymes in it that kill the bacterial infection they found was actually the root cause of acid reflux.

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Good luck Ken. I hope it gives you relief with no side effects.
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Ken0069 wrote:UPDATE: Well, it's gone down hill from the last update??

On the night of June 23rd I noticed some subtle changes in my night vision here in the house? So the next day I went looking online for reasons for it and it came back to the Plaquenil that I had started taking on June 11th. I also ran across a website for the Amsler Grid, which is used to diagnose early stages of Macular Degeneration and that showed me some stuff I didn't like as well. So on the 27th I stopped taking the drugs and called my eye Dr for an appointment. Saw that Dr on the 29th and he ran that field of vision test again and this time it showed some "issues" that he couldn't deal with so he referred me to a retina specialist who I saw yesterday.

Bad news is I have what she called "pre-macular degeneration spots inside my eyes but she says they are not related to the Plaquenil as it only affects the retina. Some of the symptoms I'm having are or can be related to the Plaquenil but she says that it's too early to know for sure whether it's really affecting my night vision. She also told me that "if" the Plaquenil starts attacking the retina of my eyes there's NOTHING that can be done to stop it, and that I'd go blind??? Sort of a WTF moment if you will.

So, having said all that, she recommended that I NOT take the Plaquenil any more so now I'm basically back to square one.

Don't know about you guys, but being blind ain't something I can live with so I'll see my Rheumatologist in a week or so to see what he can do now. I think Methotrexate is the next drug up the ladder so I'm guessing he will switch me to that one.
Ken, have you ever tried acupuncture? Just a thought. (I'm not a hippie, really) :)
I'm sure the studies say that only a small percentage of patients go blind but to me this is the sort of sh!t that makes me stay away from doctors and prescription drugs as much as possible!
My wife was given an antibiotic that gave her a rash on her face after two doses. I did some quick research and one of the possible side effects would make your jaw drop! Steven Johnson Syndrome is a life threatening skin condition that is mostly caused by certain medications. It's equivalent to being burned to death! You go to a burn unit for treatment. :shock: From an antibiotic that gets flung at patients with very little care or warning! I couldn't even tell her what might be happening. I made her stop taking the meds (poison) right away. Luckily the rash faded and she was fine after a couple of days. The severity of Steven Johnson syndrome is directly related to how quick you stop taking the offending medication.
We all know these drugs are developed to make the drug company lots of money. Helping man kind is in a distant second place on the list. I hope you find something that helps without the ridiculous side effects. The newer generations of drugs seem to all be sh!t though.
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RevTheory wrote:You may want to dig pretty deep into autoimmune disease as the underlying cause. I've been dealing with it for over a decade now and I've seen many times in my studies how RA is a symptom of it.

Something, food allergy, leaky gut, low-grade but long-winded viral, bacterial, fungal infection... something may have your immune system wigged out and it's turned on you. RA is when it's turned on your cartilage.

I hope it helps.
My "Wood-Hippie" Buddy, Doc tells me that it might be because of "wastes" created by bacteria living in your joints and ligaments "eating processes" that are causing all the problems! The wastes are poisoning our joints and ligaments and that is what is messing us up!!

I do wonder if a powerful "Systemic Bactericide" would do anything to fight the bacterial "infection"?

I do know that I was given one for a really bad sinus infection that cleared it up as well as killed the little shit that made "skin blisters" on my fingers and my right foot's sole. Stuff left and never did come back and I had that shit for years and couldn't get rid of it! Cleared my dandruff up too as well as some skin lesions...

And reading about bacteria on the surface of the esophagus causing acid reflux and such crap makes me wonder about this even more!!

BUT I do figure that if something like this worked, PHARMA sure the f** wouldn't tell us about it!! They only make money offa keeping shit the way it is and NOT curing much of anything as I see it!! But what do I know??

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I think I found my "systemic bacteriacide".

Anybody ever use Bactrim? (SMX/TMP)...

Bactrim contains a combination of sulfamethoxazole and trimethoprim. Sulfamethoxazole and trimethoprim are are both antibiotics that treat different types of infection caused by bacteria.

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RevTheory wrote:You may want to dig pretty deep into autoimmune disease as the underlying cause. I've been dealing with it for over a decade now and I've seen many times in my studies how RA is a symptom of it.

Something, food allergy, leaky gut, low-grade but long-winded viral, bacterial, fungal infection... something may have your immune system wigged out and it's turned on you. RA is when it's turned on your cartilage.

I hope it helps.
My "Wood-Hippie" Buddy, Doc tells me that it might be because of "wastes" created by bacteria living in your joints and ligaments "eating processes" that are causing all the problems! The wastes are poisoning our joints and ligaments and that is what is messing us up!!

I do wonder if a powerful "Systemic Bactericide" would do anything to fight the bacterial "infection"?

I do know that I was given one for a really bad sinus infection that cleared it up as well as killed the little shit that made "skin blisters" on my fingers and my right foot's sole. Stuff left and never did come back and I had that shit for years and couldn't get rid of it! Cleared my dandruff up too as well as some skin lesions...

And reading about bacteria on the surface of the esophagus causing acid reflux and such crap makes me wonder about this even more!!

BUT I do figure that if something like this worked, PHARMA sure the f** wouldn't tell us about it!! They only make money offa keeping shit the way it is and NOT curing much of anything as I see it!! But what do I know??

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I think I found my "systemic bacteriacide".

Anybody ever use Bactrim? (SMX/TMP)...

Bactrim contains a combination of sulfamethoxazole and trimethoprim. Sulfamethoxazole and trimethoprim are are both antibiotics that treat different types of infection caused by bacteria.

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I thought that name sounded familiar! A possible side effect of Bactrim is Steven Johnson Syndrome!
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"Steven Johnson Syndrome!"

You talk about a "catch-all" syndrome!!!

Glad hardly anybody ever gets it because if this stuff could move like the, "Black Plague", we all would be in trouble..

Anyway, might try the SMX/TMZ I mentioned as well as Tetracycline and see what happens to your body's joints/muscles/ligaments pain signals??

Personally I would start off with a, "large", dosage and see what happens?? Take it for a while and monitor your body's reaction...

Oh, and btw, off topic, but I think you have to take so much aspirin to kill yourself that it is basically non-toxic up to that amount so see what I mean here?

Might tear your stomach lining up though?

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Ken0069 wrote:Saw my Rheumatologist yesterday and I'm going to start on Methotrexate as soon as I get an issue with a jaw tooth resolved. I've got a tooth that had a root canal and a crown done to it back in 2005 that's been giving me problems since back in January and now I think it might be abscessed. Have an appointment with the Dentist for this coming Tuesday so I'll know more on that then. Rheumatologist doesn't want me to start the Methotrexate if I have an infection already in my body so that has to be resolved first.

Sam's Club pharmacy called last night to let me know the prescriptions were ready and this stuff is going to be cheaper by the month than the Plaquenil was by about $5. =D>

I am a little late since you have a professional medical diag and prescription. But if I had of read this earlier in the month. I would have suggested you try "coated" aspirin while you wait. I got juvenile rheumatoid arthritis when I was seven and spent two years in the hospital in a wheel chair with it. They ended up sending me to the Arthritis society. A lab in Vancouver where they did experimentation and research on people and children with different forms of rheumatism's. I became one of there guinea pigs. Anyhow, after a couple years they got word large doses of aspirin would control or even seemed to turn it right off in some people. So they gave me 16 coated aspirin per day. One week in I was walking. A couple months in I was back home and all was back to a normal life. I am just shy of fifty now. Every few years or so. I get a bit of sore wrists or ankles. I pound coated aspirin for a couple days and it clears up again. Over the years I have had friends and people I've come across with rheumatism's and different types of arthritis on different wonder drugs that were suffering. I suggest to them to try easing up into fairly large doses of ASA / aspirin. Not all. But many of them have had very good results. "So I am not a doctor". Any of this is at anyones own risk! But other than possible stomach ulcers. I have not heard of any bad reaction from trying this and I would guess that there are way less risks associated with this treatment than any most any recent wonder drugs. So if you wanted to try it or play it really safe and ask your physician first about it. You could try this and there is a good shot you would be able to avoid any and all long term medical treatment.

The key is you must drink lots of water and it should be taken with a glass of milk. I would start with two 250 m.g. coated aspirin tablets three times a day. See how that goes with your stomach and pain. If it persists and your not having any upset stomach. Then crank it up to 3 tablets four times a day. If it does not settle down a bunch in a few weeks. Then I would go see a rheumatologist or try that other treatment you have.

Again. I am not a doctor. But have had a lot of experience with this and have never seen or heard of it hurting anyone? "At your own risk".

I would bet this is one of those things drug companies would prefer to keep quiet.
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I started taking aspirin because my sinuses were going nuts! (My sinuses are always going nuts!!)... Worked very well along with Guaifenesin. 400 mg. tab of G. and 12 to 1500 mg. of Aspirin twice a day..

Use the aspirin until my stomach backs up, lay off it for a couple of days and go at it again.

Also helps with my sore lower legs, ankles and feet! (Heck, I really need to lose about 75 pounds!!!)...

And one thing about aspirin, Pharma can't make any money off it because it is NATURAL!! I figure this is why Pharma pushes so much other crap vs just using it in a lot of cases.

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