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I have seen this mentioned but just ran across a vid in relation to the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQnSWMkBGc
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we used to do this with 5 hp B&S go kart engines by leaving off the scraper oil ring and adding nitro ethane in the crankcase oil till they caught on. :D
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2-stroke comes mind.Was at Rotax factory in austria. They claimed there gp road race bike engines made more hp per cc than f1.
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Yeah I curious as to what additive they might be using in the oil that would not effect the lubricity, if that's a word?
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Nitro. Doesn't take much. To gain 20hp.
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i wish that kid would go away.
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englertracing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:15 pm i wish that kid would go away.
???. Who you referring to? The guy on the video in the link, or me, considering you commented after my reply.
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Steve.k wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:50 am 2-stroke comes mind.Was at Rotax factory in austria. They claimed there gp road race bike engines made more hp per cc than f1.
Have them measure the displacement of the 2 stroke, through 720 degrees, like they do a 4 stroke, and see which one is making more power per cc.
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I remember some of our comp competitors back in the late 80's mixing nitro in the oil to gain a few hundredths in a final. Seemed sketchy to me but I guess they figured one pass was not going to kill it.
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Frankshaft wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:39 pm
englertracing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:15 pm i wish that kid would go away.
???. Who you referring to? The guy on the video in the link, or me, considering you commented after my reply.
lol,
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i hate him so much......
he is just awful
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CamKing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:36 pm
Steve.k wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:50 am 2-stroke comes mind.Was at Rotax factory in austria. They claimed there gp road race bike engines made more hp per cc than f1.
Have them measure the displacement of the 2 stroke, through 720 degrees, like they do a 4 stroke, and see which one is making more power per cc.
Maybe so but 250cc twin rotary vavle making 120 hp fairly impressive also.n/a
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englertracing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:59 pm
Frankshaft wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:39 pm
englertracing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:15 pm i wish that kid would go away.
???. Who you referring to? The guy on the video in the link, or me, considering you commented after my reply.
lol,
the guy in the video,
i hate him so much......
he is just awful
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Frankshaft wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:03 pm Nitro. Doesn't take much. To gain 20hp.
Doesn't apply for F1-regulations, they have unlimited air supply, only burnable fuel is limited. Anything which can be burned in combustion cycle will add power in F1, strange that they left such a loophole in regulations.
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The topic has already been covered recently at great length down there.
There is no S on the end of RPM.
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Steve.k wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:10 pm
CamKing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:36 pm
Steve.k wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:50 am 2-stroke comes mind.Was at Rotax factory in austria. They claimed there gp road race bike engines made more hp per cc than f1.
Have them measure the displacement of the 2 stroke, through 720 degrees, like they do a 4 stroke, and see which one is making more power per cc.
Maybe so but 250cc twin rotary vavle making 120 hp fairly impressive also.n/a
Not when it's actually 500cc's
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