Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
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Pseudo
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not actually but having the appearance of; pretended; false or spurious; sham.
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Figured that described it. "Trying to be" or "having the appearance of" a race engine. un-ported heads and just other left over stuff in the shop.
It'd have a little thump like a race engine, smell like one, just didn't figure it'd be an over achiever. LOL
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Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
Jay,
I must have missed it. Can you post a link to these HP / Torque curves? All I have seen posted is a single data point from a number of different curves. Have you never dynoed an engine and had peak HP go down but other areas in the curve also changed and the engine ran faster?
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Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
Stan Weiss wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:25 pmJay,
I must have missed it. Can you post a link to these HP / Torque curves? All I have seen posted is a single data point from a number of different curves. Have you never dynoed an engine and had peak HP go down but other areas in the curve also changed and the engine ran faster?
Stan
Back in 05-07 our sb2 program had identical engines make same power curves within 1 percent. Yet brake specifics were different, and some would out accellerate the others. A steady state dyno test at 300rpm/sec will show more hp than 600rpm/sec on the same engine. From my experience in racing, who cares what the torque is. Rpm and horsepower matter.
The only thing I care about when I comes to torque is how slowly it drops off.
Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
I thought maybe it was a pseudo 383 because Chrysler had two 383's before the Chevy one.randy331 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:26 pmPseudo
[soo-doh]
1.
not actually but having the appearance of; pretended; false or spurious; sham.
2.
almost, approaching, or trying to be.
Origin of pseudo
Figured that described it. "Trying to be" or "having the appearance of" a race engine. un-ported heads and just other left over stuff in the shop.
It'd have a little thump like a race engine, smell like one, just didn't figure it'd be an over achiever. LOL
Randy
Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
Well said.MTENGINES wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:56 pmStan Weiss wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:25 pmJay,
I must have missed it. Can you post a link to these HP / Torque curves? All I have seen posted is a single data point from a number of different curves. Have you never dynoed an engine and had peak HP go down but other areas in the curve also changed and the engine ran faster?
Stan
Back in 05-07 our sb2 program had identical engines make same power curves within 1 percent. Yet brake specifics were different, and some would out accellerate the others. A steady state dyno test at 300rpm/sec will show more hp than 600rpm/sec on the same engine. From my experience in racing, who cares what the torque is. Rpm and horsepower matter.
The only thing I care about when I comes to torque is how slowly it drops off.
Racing a NA NHRA stocker should be mandatory before any posting.
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So you produce dyno sheets without torque. I have never seen one produced that way.MTENGINES wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:56 pmStan Weiss wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:25 pmJay,
I must have missed it. Can you post a link to these HP / Torque curves? All I have seen posted is a single data point from a number of different curves. Have you never dynoed an engine and had peak HP go down but other areas in the curve also changed and the engine ran faster?
Stan
Back in 05-07 our sb2 program had identical engines make same power curves within 1 percent. Yet brake specifics were different, and some would out accellerate the others. A steady state dyno test at 300rpm/sec will show more hp than 600rpm/sec on the same engine. From my experience in racing, who cares what the torque is. Rpm and horsepower matter.
The only thing I care about when I comes to torque is how slowly it drops off.
How about doing a fixed load variable acceleration rate (RPM/sec) test more like a car running on a race course?
Stan
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Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
Let's throw an electric car into the mix.
1000 lb/ft from 0rpm to 3150 rpm
750 lb/ft at 4000 rpm
600 lb/ft at 5000 rpm
509 lb/ft at 6200 rpm
What does an infinitely variable transmission do with that for max performance?
1000 lb/ft from 0rpm to 3150 rpm
750 lb/ft at 4000 rpm
600 lb/ft at 5000 rpm
509 lb/ft at 6200 rpm
What does an infinitely variable transmission do with that for max performance?
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This isn't directed towards you, so don't take offense, but who gives a SHIT. This isn't a electric car site, and I hope it never is. They can pound electric cars you know whereRoundybout wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:54 pm Let's throw an electric car into the mix.
1000 lb/ft from 0rpm to 3150 rpm
750 lb/ft at 4000 rpm
600 lb/ft at 5000 rpm
509 lb/ft at 6200 rpm
What does an infinitely variable transmission do with that for max performance?
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Amen!Frankshaft wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:04 pmThis isn't directed towards you, so don't take offense, but who gives a SHIT. This isn't a electric car site, and I hope it never is. They can pound electric cars you know whereRoundybout wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:54 pm Let's throw an electric car into the mix.
1000 lb/ft from 0rpm to 3150 rpm
750 lb/ft at 4000 rpm
600 lb/ft at 5000 rpm
509 lb/ft at 6200 rpm
What does an infinitely variable transmission do with that for max performance?
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Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
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Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
30 pages of bullshit now.
Why get upset about lectric cars. My next one will be lectric.
It's because someone mentioned torque at zero RPM which jammed a spanner in the works.
Which proves you can have torque without power but you can't have power without torque, with an engine or motor.
What about steam engines?
Same, it's torque that gets it started.
Why get upset about lectric cars. My next one will be lectric.
It's because someone mentioned torque at zero RPM which jammed a spanner in the works.
Which proves you can have torque without power but you can't have power without torque, with an engine or motor.
What about steam engines?
Same, it's torque that gets it started.
Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
Joe,
Best of luck of luck when you break down with error code 543 on the dash & you ring a local repair shop for assistance....
Best of luck of luck when you break down with error code 543 on the dash & you ring a local repair shop for assistance....
Re: Which Is Faster - 600hp@6200 or 600hp@7100
I fixed a Prius about 8 years ago when the owner of one of the local machine shops imported it from Japan with a flat battery.
Today I've got a 5 year old's lectric car in the garage............managed to put the smoke back inside it (owner tried to rewire from 12 to 24 volt).......then an electric scooter turned up. The owner wants it fixed so he can get home from the pub without having to drive the car when he's pissed.
Today I've got a 5 year old's lectric car in the garage............managed to put the smoke back inside it (owner tried to rewire from 12 to 24 volt).......then an electric scooter turned up. The owner wants it fixed so he can get home from the pub without having to drive the car when he's pissed.